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New Big Lathe And Milling Machine Installed In The Workshop
Below is a photo of the KINWA CH 430 1100 Lathe and the ARGO Vertical Turret Milling Machine 3VH installed in my model engineering workshop in our retirement house here in Pakchong (Pak Chong), Thailand.
The walls of the workshop are now complete awaiting painting. To the right that big opening is a roller-shutter door doing what it was intended to – to let the light in.
The workshop looks a bit cluttered and it is as the single and three phase power distribution is being installed. That coil of black cable is the three phase power cable for the lathe and mill. Here are a couple of exteriors photos showing the walls:-
Above, the opening at the end is a roller-shutter door to allow access for machine tools, benches and eventually a half-size model steam traction engine to pass through!
The photo above is at the other end of the workshop and is simply a window to match the other two on this elevation. You can only see the window frame – the shutters and security bars yet to be fitted.
The Stuart Turner Victoria Steam Engine Model
I had been struggling to make some silly little parts – the guidebar supports and spacers, on my other lathe – a combined lathe and milling machine actually.. They are only 1/4″ dia and 1/4″ and 3/8″ long respectively but they all have to be exactly the same length.
I’m on trial 3 now and have used up all the Stuart Turner supplied 1/4″ round BMS stock and most of a 12″ piece I happened to have.
Eventually I found out how to do it and they are all exactly the same length withing half a thou:-
Here are the finished spacers (two types):-
Buying Steel Bar
I mentioned above that I was fast running out of 1/4″ bright steel bar. I needed some angle steel to fill in some gaps around one of the roller-shutter doors so off I went to get some from the local steel merchant Ying Jaleaum. Whilst buying the angle iron I bought a selection of round steel rod. I didn’t really know what I was buying I just pointed to each of the smaller size rods and asked for 2 m of it.
Here are some photos of my haul back home:-
The next photo is a close-up of the round steel bar. it is all bright mild steel (BMS) as we call it and on the receipt it is called “plao kaao” in Thai which translates to ‘axle shaft white’. So now you know what to ask for.
Above the round bright steel I bought in Pakchong (Pak Chong), Thailand.
The sizes are interesting. I was wondering whether they would be metric or imperial. top-to-bottom, the sizes as declared on the receipt and as I measured them are:-
Receipt Size | Measured Size |
1/2″ | 1/2″ exactly |
3/8″ | 3/8″ exactly |
11 mm | 10.97 mm |
5/16″ | 0.314″ = oversize by 0.0015″ |
1/4″ | 1/4″ exactly |
The 11 mm bar although it looks like black bar is in fact bright steel.
What else is interesting is how many of the bars were exactly to the imperial diameter. In the UK BMS is traditionally undersize so that a BMS rod will never be a close fit in a reamed hole.
The next photo is a close up of the steel angle. I have included this because the steel is so precise and clean with sharp corners and the marking is very clear. Not at all the rough angle iron I am used to back in the UK.
Photos Of The Huge ARGO 3VH Milling Machine And The Big Kinwa CH 430X1100 Lathe In The Vendor’s Workshop In Bangkok, Thailand
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These are photos of a huge milling machine and a large lathe that were sent to me by a member of the Announcement List on the ModelEngineeringInThailand.com website in response to my Page “Buying A Large Lathe In Thailand“.
As I explained on that Buying A Large Lathe In Thailand web page I need a large lathe and milling machine to install in my model engineering workshop here in Pakchong (Pak Chong), Thailand, to make a large model of a steam traction engine.
The Announcement List member told me that the machines were about three years old and had seen little use and that he was prepared to sell them to me if I was interested. I was interested and arranged to visit the Vendor’s workshop. These are the photos the Vendor sent me by email.
Photos Of The Huge ARGO 3VH Milling Machine And The Big Kinwa CH 430X1100 Lathe
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Photos Of The Big Kinwa CH 430X1100 Lathe
According to the Vendor, John, Kinwa is the last company to make non-CNC lathe machines of quality. Kinwa is a Taiwanese company and john says that these machines are far superior to lathes made in mainland China and that Kinwa is the make of choice for the discerning purchaser.
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Specification Of The Big Kinwa CH 430X1100 Lathe
KINWA Lathe Machine CH-430 Specifications |
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Model |
CH-430 x 1100 |
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Capacity |
Swing Over Bed |
432 mm |
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Swing Over Carriage |
268 mm |
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Swing Over Gap |
610 mm |
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Width of Gap in front of face plate |
150 mm |
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Distance Between Centers |
1067 mm |
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Width of Bed |
300 mm |
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Stroke of Tool Post |
145 mm |
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Stroke of Cross Slide |
265 mm |
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Headstock |
Spindle Bore |
58 mm ( 78 mm Optional ) |
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Taper of Spindle Bore & Center |
MT6 x MT4 |
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Spindle Nose |
A1-6, D1-6 |
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Number of Spindle Speeds |
12 |
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Spindle Speed |
35,52,75,110,160,230,330,490,650,950,1350,2000 rpm |
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Threading & Feeds |
Number of Feeds |
36 |
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Range of Longitudinal Feeds |
0.037 – 1.04 mm / rev |
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Range of Cross Feeds |
Half of Longitudinal Feeds |
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Leadscrew Diameter |
35 mm |
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Leadscrew Pitch |
P = 6 mm |
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Range of Inch Pitches |
2 – 72 TPI / 44 Kinds |
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Range of Metric Pitches |
0.2 – 14 mm / 39 Kinds |
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Tailstock |
Quill Stroke |
170 mm |
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Quill Diameter |
60 mm |
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Quill Taper |
MT#4 |
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Motor |
Main Motor |
5 HP |
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Coolant Pump Motor |
1/8 HP |
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Machine Dimension |
Height |
1400mm |
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Floor Space |
2300 x 1000 mm |
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Weight |
1800 kgs |
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Price |
Bath |
345,000.00 |
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Price Above Not Include Vat 7% |
Photos Of The Huge ARGO 3VH Milling Machine
John’s story of this huge milling machine and I was aghast at the size of it when I saw it, is that it is a Taiwanese clone of the well known and well respected American Bridgeport milling machine but that it has been “metricized”.
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Specification Of The Huge ARGO 3VH Milling Machine
Vertical Turret Milling Machine 3VH | |||
ARGO Vertical Turret Milling Machine 3VH Specifications |
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Model |
3VH |
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Spindle |
Spindle Motor |
3 HP |
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Spindle Speeds ( rpm ) |
70 – 500 Low / 600 – 4200 High ( Verrival Speed ) |
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Spindle Taper |
R-8 or ISO 30 |
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SpindleCenter to Column Face |
6 – 3/4″ Min. – 29 – 3/4″ Max. ( 172 mm Min. – 756 mm Max. ) |
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Spindle Nose to Table Top |
0″ Min. – 18″ Max. ( 0 mm Min. – 458 mm Max. ) |
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Quill Diameter |
3.375″ ( 86 mm ) |
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Quill Feeds ( 3 ) |
.0015″, .003″, .006″ ( .04 mm, .08mm, .15 mm ) |
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Quill Travel |
5″ ( 127 mm ) |
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Head |
Head Tilt |
45o Forward 45o Backward 90o Right 90o Left |
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Ram Travel |
18″ ( 458 mm ) |
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Ram Swivel |
360o |
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Table |
Work Surface |
10″ x 50″ ( 254 x 1270 mm ) |
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Max. Workpiece Travel |
300 kgs |
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Longitudinal Travel |
35″ T-Slots (3) ( 890 mm ) |
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Supplied with Turcite B |
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Cross Travel |
15.1″ ( 384 mm ) |
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Supplied with Turcite B |
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Hardness and Ground Way |
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Vertical Travel |
16″ ( 407 mm ) |
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Hardness and Ground Way |
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Power Feed |
X – Axis |
155 / cm-kg ( 135 / in-Ib ) |
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Z – Axis Driven Motor |
800 mm / Min. |
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Weight |
Approx. Machine Weight |
1,250 kgs |
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Optional |
Include |
Halogen Lamp |
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Include |
Chip Tray |
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Price |
Baht |
245,000.00 |
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Price Above Not Include Vat 7% |
Details And Accessories
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Details Of the SDN35CXA Super Quick Change Tool Post
- 20,000 P.S.I. Holder locking pressure
- For manual lathe, prototyping, maintenance work, limited multi operation and toolroom applications
- Heat treated and precision ground alloy steel body
- High precision, for internal and external operations, roughing and finishing
- Interchangeable with industry standard tool posts and tool holders
- Maintenance free
- Manufactured in U.S.A.
- Positive lock with absolute zero backlash
- Repetitive accuracy of 0.0001″
Specification Of The 6 Inch Milling Machine Accu-Lock Precision Vice
- This machine vise without base has a 6 inch jaw width
- 5-1/2 inch jaw opening
- 1-3/4 inch jaw height
- The lock down jaw provides 1/2 pound of force vertically for each pound of horizontal force and it eliminates tilt and hammering
- The removed hinged handle helps fast locking
- For Bridgeport milling machine
New Page Added For Tools Suppliers In Thailand For Model Engineers
Just added a page about Cromwell Tools, a huge supplier of tools in Bangkok.
I knew about Cromwell tools in the UK but had no idea they were here in thailand until Andrew told me by email this morning.
They have a website (in English Language) where you can download their catalogues.
The catalogues are massive and contain thousands of tools. I would most likely not have placed that order for tools from RDG Tools in the UK if I had known about this place.
Sill not sure whether you can buy tools from them directly at the warehouse or if you have to buy through their agents. There is no list of agents on their website.
I might visit them – after making sure I can – when I go down to All Arm Co to buy the tools and cutter grinder next Tuesday.